18 October 2007

Stars Fell On: Things I've Heard in Alabama

It's weird that people are asking me where I go to church. Please stop it.



Another damn disclaimer: Anything I say in this post is not, I repeat IS NOT, a criticism of Alabama or the South in general. It is different to me because this was not how I was brought up.

Part 1 of the story is here. Part 2 of the story is here. Part 3 of the story is here.

As a native Midwesterner, moving to Alabama has been a bit of a culture shock. Having lived in Knoxville, TN for several years, I'd had a taste of Southern culture. However, this is the Deep South and it's different from anywhere I've ever been.

When you first meet most people here in the South, the first question they ask you is, "Where do you go to church?" I've come to realize that this isn't meant to be a rude question, since this is NOT something you'd ask someone back home. People are generally just trying to be friendly and if you say you don't have a church home, they invite you to attend their church. This has become less and less awkward as time has passed and I've learned to tell people that we attend church at St. Notgoingtosaytherealname Church (which isn't a lie exactly, we do occasionally attend).

As for church, it is a way of life here. People speak openly of being "blessed." Many stores and even some restaurants aren't open on Sundays. Not to insinuate that we Midwesterners are heathens by any stretch of the imagination, it's just that our entire lives do not revolve around church. I definitely think that this has been a factor in our difficulty making friends here in Alabama.

Another thing that I've learned is the way to properly address adults. Titles such as Sir, Ma'am, and Miss are expected, most especially when it's a child addressing the adult. I often forget to say these things myself, so I worry that my kids will be outcasts if I don't teach them the proper Southern way to address adults. I grew up calling acquaintances of my parents either Mr/Mrs. Lastname or by their first names. It's custom here for children to call their parent's friends Miss Firstname. Since it isn't something I expect, it always seems odd when I'm addressed as Miss Jennifer.

One of my favorite Southern sayings is "bless her/his/your heart." It's the Southern way of getting away with talking about someone behind their back. If you want to talk about your neighbor who is cuh-razy and going through a nasty divorce with her beer swigging husband, you are absolved of any wrongdoing if when you're gossiping about her you end your sentence with, "bless her heart."

I've learned that the cart in the grocery store is called a buggy. Lunch is called dinner and dinner is called supper. Instead of saying "alright then" people say "aight den." I know there are many, many more but I'm having trouble thinking of anymore.

To end this post, I'd like to leave you with several sayings Tate has heard at work that make me laugh my ass off. These certainly aren't things most Alabamans say, but I'm including them here since I've never heard them outside of Alabama. Hope you enjoy.

Doesn't that make you so mad that it makes you want to spit chicken shit out your teeth?

Looks like you brushed your hair with a firecracker this morning.

I need your help like a dead man needs a coffin.

How you feeling today? Like I've been ironing in high heels all day.

When referring to a tall woman...Looks like she could stand flat-footed and shit in a dump truck.

*****
Thanks for your well wishes yesterday. "Installation" of the Mirena went well. If you would like more details, just email me, mkay?

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♥.Trish.♥ Drumboys said...

Glad the installation is complete !

Since I live In Australia I am begining to appreciate the many the many 'cultural' differences between bloggers across the US and those of us down under ... like you saying deep south.
Those sayings are funny - I like the brushed your hair with a firecracker.

We call the cart ... a shopping trolley .
I hope the doors of friendship open soon for you'all ?

At end of the day (11.20pm here) or begining it is great we can all share a laugh together.
God bless ya'.

Beth said...

You're bringing me back to my upbringing! Although I have to admit that "Yes ma'am" and "no sir" are fully ingrained into my head, and I'm pretty sure I'll be enforcing that rule with William! Lol. Do you hear lots of "fixin' to," as in "I'm fixin ' to go to the store." Or what about my personal favorite--"tump," as in, "I accidentally tumped over the glass of milk." And what about, "I was fit to be tied." Oh, I could go on and on. DH makes fun of me whenever my "southernisms" sneak out.

Anonymous said...

Yay for successful installation!

This post is so funny. My MIL does a weird verb thing: says "That needs washed" instead of "That needs to be washed." She also seriously says things like "My stars" and "Well I never!"

Anonymous said...

You're spot on with all that. We start the m'ams and sirs early, because that's what you do.

And uphere, my kids call people Mrs. Last name, and then she says, "No, call me Miss Jennifer," so they do.

I'm always fixin' to do tons of things!

About church - when I put a Kerry sticker on my minivan, I also added one of those metal Christian fish things just to balance it out-- like "Hello! I'm Christian, but voting Democrat!" I was afraid I'd get keyed otherwise.

Men don't go the bathroom- they go see a man to talk about a hound dog.

Henny Penny said...

Say "yes ma'am" in Central IL and you'll get your head snapped off! WHen I am asked what church I go to I respond, "I don't go to church, I'm a Democrat." Sometimes people laugh, sometimes they are flumoxed. But usually they don't invite me to their church.

d e v a n said...

This is funny. I too live in AL, but in the very northern part and I have missed many of these things that you speak of. lol
Some still hold true though, and not just for AL. My IL's are from Texas and they do nearly all the things you mentioned. I STILL get confused about what meal my MIL is talking about when she says dinner. To me, that's the evening meal and to her it's lunch.

Anonymous said...

As a true Southern belle, this tickled me!!! The only thing I tke exception to is the "bless your heart" thing... NOW, I do know that some people use the expression in that way. But alot of people (me included!) use this expression quite often and don't mean it ugly in any way - I promise!!! You are right, the deep South is a unique culture :)

Anonymous said...

As a fellow Midwesterner, I share your shock at the "where do you go to church" question. We'd often get it before we were even asked our names, what we did or if we had kids. That we don't go to church would definitely be an issue if we were staying here forever, but thankfully we're not.

I do have to say that I like the southern hospitality thing, though. Most men will hold open doors for you, etc. where in the Midwest I'd had men let doors shut in my face before.

Maggie said...

Some of those are too funny! I guess asking where you go to church isn't any different than people who grew up in St. Louis asking where you went to high school.

And what I want to know...are your kids going to say y'all?!

Anonymous said...

Yep. Church is a way of life in the South and many people don't understand it. It is the Social Hub of most Southern communities and that is where you meet friends and mates. Being invited to church is akin to being invited to a huge block party as many churches will have suppers either before or after church where people can mingle and catch up with each other over the events that happened since last church service. When I was a kid we went to church Sunday morning, evening and Wednesday evening and I always remember having food that on those days.

The sayings can differ from region but my favorite from TN is "slicker than spit on a frog's back". That cracks me up just hearing it and my sister used to use it a lot.

My DH and I still have the argument of Buggy v. Cart. He laughs at me everytime we go to the store and I say buggy. Other words I use that no one else in PA does is "reckon" and I admit to using "bless her/his/it's heart" on many many many occasions (and not just talking bad about them either! LOL).

You think you had culture shock, try the opposite and live like you described for 25 years and then moving up North! It never ceases to amaze me how different things are.

Heidi Hyde said...

Too funny! I am totally ignorant to southern vernacular. But I'm fascinated.

My aunt is the human resources director for a large corporation here in Iowa- and this reminds me of a story she once told- and I giggled at.

(Please don't take offense--There is truly none intended)

An employee from (some southern state- I can't remember exactly which but I think it may have started with a T)called her to complain about another employee in his office. Among his list of complaints was that said employee was keeping a gun in his desk. His words were, and I quote, "I don't know why he can't just keep it in his pick-up like everybody else."

Oh we had a chuckle about that one!

-HH

T. said...

As a tall woman I'm COMPLETELY offended by that comment - Seriously. What the h-e-double hockey stick is that supposed to mean????

justmylife said...

I grew up in Alabama and I remain in Alabama, Hell, I will most likely die in Alabama. I have heard all that and more in my life. And I use "bless her/his heart", it does take the nastiness out of talking about someone. I love listening to the older generation, they have way more "southernisms" than we do. I always tell my hubby I am a complete southern belle and he replies that he'll kiss my A** if I am. Guess I can tell him that I talk like one!HA! And to the other comments, loved them!!!

Bon said...

loved this. i've never been near the Southern US, but i suspect that its population may hail (two hundred years back, or more) from the same neck of the Scottish/Irish woods as the population where i'm from...as here in the Maritimes of Canada we have the same penchant for colourful phrases, the same dinner/supper confusion, the same "bless your heart" stuff...just less formality and religiosity.

neat post.

Danielle said...

Yay for a well-placed Mirena!

The sayings are familiar. I grew up in Texas and we had a lot of the same things. "I'm fixin to pitch a fit!" is by far my favorite southern saying. I dropped it while in college in Boston, after being teased mercilessly every time it popped out.

Oh, and the "What church do you attend?" question gets asked a lot here, in Los Angeles. Which I always thought odd.

Anonymous said...

I giggle when people ask me what church I attend.

I probably should stop doing that.

It may seem rude.

Whatever.

Southern (in)Sanity said...

I haven't heard many of those saying that Tate has heard at work, but most of the rest of it sounds about right.

I still say "sir" and "ma'am" to my elders today. I guess kids are brought up like that here.

Heather said...

Oh so true about the church thing.

Bless her heart....total and complete absolution. I grew up on it.

Honestly, I don't like the Miss Jennifer thing either. Is it ok if my kids call you Binky Bitch instead? Or do we go with Mrs. Binky Bitch? Or skip the first name all together and stay with your proper Mrs. Last Name?

I swore I wasn't going to make my kids say Mrs. First Name, but then I learned that a friend found it offensive if a child didn't address her with Mrs. First Name that I had my boys start doing it.

I never understood that particular southern thing. I mean, if we're close enough for kids to call you by your first name and not Mrs. Last Name, then are we really worried about respect? Friendship has an innate respect to it that I've never thought had to be declared with a "Mrs." before the first name.

Just goes to show, even in the South, you have dissenters.

Pregnantly Plump said...

I'm originally from Mississippi and recognize lots of what you mentioned. (I do call a shopping cart buggy from time to time and when I'm talking of feeding Little Elvis his noontime meal, I typically say "Time for dinner, oops! I mean time for lunch!") My husband is from Pennsylvania originally and thought it was really rude of people to ask what church he went to. He ended up getting over it, but still doesn't understand that folks aren't trying to be rude.
A couple of more sayings for you -- "That lady is crazier than a bessy bug." I have no idea what a bessy bug is.
"She looks rode hard and put up wet," for a woman who looks like she's led a colorful life.
Technically we still live in the south (northern VA) but I do miss a lot about the south. People here are extremely rude and don't think that clerks at any store will actually help you with anything. They will not.

dawn224 said...

It's even more intense than a town with 3 Christian affiliated universities and the world home base of a charasmatic denomination?! :)

Sarcasta-Mom said...

I'm soooo glad I stumbled on to your blog. Too funny.

This really brought me back to my year living in Kentucky. Just be glad you're not a "Yankee" like I was. lol.

Anonymous said...

That's so funny. I have heard & used several. But, since I hail from Texas, if you asked Alabamans if we are part of the South, they'd say no. We're our own little breed. And, I'd never had the church thing come up ever until we moved into this house & people showed up as the moving van was still unloading. When they found out we were going to go to St. Michael's, they backed away quickly, like AHH. Heathen Catholics.

Anonymous said...

Fellow heathen, here. If I lived there, people would probably fear my shiny, atheist glow.

And the chicken shit comment is so nasty. The more I hear about Alabama, the more I want to visit.

mpotter said...

oh how funny!
i enjoyed that.

surprised you didn't include "mash" and "fixin to"....

i'm in GA, so i def. relate to the church thing and such.
but those sayings.......... never!

Cathy, Amy and Kristina said...

How about those walleyed fits?

We throw those all the time here in Arkansas.

All Things BD said...

Recently relocated to Texas, and a cute old man told me, after I inquired about his ice cream cone, "I'd have a hard time spittin' this out."

We're still working on the name thing. A lot of my friends are Ms. so-and-so, even thought their married. I get called Mrs. LastName by my eldest's school aged friends. Am I old enough for that?

Mandie said...

I have instilled the "miss/ms firstname" phenomenon in my kiddo, or am working on it. I have NO idea where I got it, since we're midwesterners and I've only been south of Columbus once. But it just seems... polite and appropriate. And I'm fairly NON polite and appropriate most of the time. Odd.

Stimey said...

I sympathize with you on the church thing. I grew up in, wait for it: Utah. And I'm not a Mormon. Nothing wrong with Mormons, but not being church-y in a very church-y place can be tough.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to hell, and by hell, I mean Tennefrickensee, in a few weeks and I KNOW it'll take me weeks to STOP saying the shit that I hear down there - yall.

I'm fixin to go to the market and push the baby around in the buggy.

I'm fixin to fix dinner.

I'm fixin to go INSANE.

Toni said...

So funny; I live in southern Ohio and apparently am surrounded by wannabe Alabamans because dinner here is lunch and a cart is a buggy. What about winders instead of windows? Or wersh instead of wash?

Nell said...

You're funny, Miss Jennifer!

I don't know how I'd do in the South. I lived In Texas for a while as a kid, but that's Texas. The Lone Star state.

Lisa Lou Hoo said...

So, where do you go to church? Sounds like the same one we go to!!! :) This caught me off guard too as a NY transplant to LA (lower alabama!) Even the baggers at the Commissary ask me when helping me with my groceries! Too funny!

Special K ~Toni said...

"bless her/his/your heart." this is one of my favorites! Then you aren't perceived as 'gossipy'!

The church thing is BIG here too, gets on my nerves sometimes.

Kuwaitia said...

It's like a whole other world down there! I have a friend from New Orleans, and she always has her kids refer to me as Miss...I didn't realize it was a southern thing...I thought it was just her, but it makes me feel fancy! Oh, and good luck with Mirena!

Anonymous said...

Yeah, I would definitely have trouble ingratiating myself in that, too. It's funny, I couldn't even tell you - of the people I meet/see on a daily basis - who even GOES to church. It's just not a question we New Englanders ask, I guess!

Jane, Pinks & Blues

Anonymous said...

When I was living in MA people got the biggest kick out of me saying I was "fixing" to do something. They also had a hard time using "yall" correctly.

I had to point out that they sounded as funny to me as I did to them!

But now that I'm back in the south, southerners sound much more southern. And if I get invited to church one more time I'm going to start wearing a big pentagram as a pendant!

Marie Green said...

I would have culture shock too. I grew up in South Dakota, of all places! Can you get any more Midwest (read: sheltered)?

Bless your heart!

tulipmom said...

This post cracked me up!

My favorite saying from visiting my in-laws in Bumblefuck Kentucky is "Get 'er done."

Brianne Hudgins Photography said...

ROTFLMAO ~ I used to just ask "why?" to the church question. Took me 4 years to realize why people thought that was rude.

Have you heard:
"That girl is dumber than a box of coat hangers, bless her heart"

Have to love MS (insert eye roll)

I still get called a Yankee when people find out I'm from NC ... that counts as Yankee around "these parts".

Victoria said...

Oh my God, this is hilarious. I don't think I could stand the South. They'd hang me in like, 2 seconds flat.

You must hang in there (heh) to continue the fabulous blog material!! hahahaha.

But seriously, bless your heart, you are providing a great service.

Jenn said...

It took me a long time after I moved to Alabama to figure out that when my co-workers said "Bless your heart..." they were MAKING FUN OF ME. Northerners have no place is a stodgy Alabama law firm, apparently. My propensity to say "That's wicked!" really threw them off (a Maine-ism; I pick phrases up everywhere!).

The other thing that it took a while for me to figure out is that in Alabama all soda is referred to as "Coke." Sprite is "Coke," Pepsi is "Coke," even Dr. Pepper is "Coke." If it has bubbles, apparently it's "Coke." There are some serious brand name issues going on down there.

The Ms. Jennifer thing is also a military thing. I always found it awkward and weird to have my friends kids call me "Ms. Jenn" because the Ms. thing is so formal and Jenn is a nickname which is so informal. But, I find myself doing it with my own daughter too, so I guess I just have to get over it. It does feel slightly more polite to me to have my daughter differentiate between adults and her peers with some title of respect, no matter how small it is.

Anonymous said...

Good grief, the whole "lunch is dinner and dinner is supper" thing DRIVES ME CRAZY! Husband is from Oklahoma where they don't do "lunch". And I'm from Missouri, where dinner and supper are the same freaking thing! Even after 13 years of marriage I'm not used to it.

Someone Being Me said...

I am a native Texan and lunch is lunch and dinner is dinner for me but I understand when people say it the other way. It is also very natural for me to call people Miss Jennifer even if the lady is 80 years old. It makes me laugh that these things are odd to other people. I also totally understand the other commenter saying that everything is Coke down here. You order a coke and people ask what kind. We also say things like so and so is three sheets to the wind (drunk) or whoppyjawed (misaligned/ out of sync), or more nervous than a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. I love being a Southerner and it is fun to see our "culture" through other people's eyes.

Marty, a.k.a. canape said...

Here's one from my great uncle,

"That tastes like more's behind."

It took me forever to get what he was saying.

Anonymous said...

Wow. Between your stories (just read all the installments) and the ones that Kristen of Motherhood Uncensored shared about Mississippi a while back ... I just could never see myself living in the deep South. I've spent time in southeastern Virginia and NC, but those were more hybrids than true, deep South. I just think for a Yankee like me the cultural differences (especially the church thing!) might be tough to handle.

And thanks again for your e-mails. I look forward to talking to you more.

theotherbear said...

Oh Miss Jennifer, those sayings made me laugh!

Anonymous said...

It is pretty much the same here in Texas. My in-laws are from Iowa and whenever I have gone up there, they laugh their butts off at how I talk.

Anonymous said...

Bless your heart, you’re missing some of the important subtleties... lunch is lunch unless it involves Mama cookin' something, then and only then does it become dinner. We have standards you know.

My dear husband (a south Florida native which is a sub-culture all its own) had trouble with the church thing until he realized our catholic neighbors weren't trying to convert him, they were just worried that he had no social life. They're good people.

Now come over here and tell me true, since you moved to Alabama, have you gotten drunker than Cooter Brown?